The most important thing to remember when talking with a breeder about the generation of their Doodles is to clarify terms. There is a lot of misunderstand and breeders do have biases which can cause them to misunderstand (giving them the benefit of the doubt) the information that is out there. Some basic points to remember are:

 

  1. First generation doodles are not as predictable in coat or confirmation as their purebred parents.
  2. Though the non-shed gene is a dominant gene it is not a given that a Poodle mix doe not shed.
  3. You lose most of what you go after (non-shed and hybrid vigor) with multi-generation until you get to the forth (usually) generation Doodle.
  4. An F1b is the best (95% chance of non-shed) for a highly allergic person at the most affordable price.

 

First generation or F1 pup for purebred parents of differing breeds i.e. Golden Retriever and Poodle

 

An F1b pup is also referred to a Goldendoodle (or Labradoodle) bred back to a purebred, usually the Poodle. This is also called a first generation cross-back.   second generation pup but

 

Multi-generational Doodle breeding is typically Labradoodle to Labradoodle or Goldendoodle to Goldendoodle. However, it is typically accepted practice to back-cross that with the Poodle here and there. Below is the first multi-generation breeding program introduced to the United States in the early 1990’s:

 

Original multi-generation program

Result

Poodle X Lab = F1 Labradoodle

F1 X F1 or F1 X Poodle = F2

F2 X F2 or F2 X Poodle = F3

F3 X F3 or F3 X A1,A2,A3,Poodle = A1

A1 X A1 or A1 X A2,A3 or pure = A2

A2 X A2 or A2 X A3 or Pure = A3

A3 x A3 = Pure

F1

F2 or F1(to Poodle)

F3 or F1(to Poodle)

F1(to Poodle) – Mostly

Non-shed

Mostly Non-shed

Mostly Non-shed

Mostly Non-shed

 

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Multi-generation Labradoodles are recommended for families with moderate to severe allergies. But remember, that means you need a fourth generation Doodle to accomplish this. There are very few people who actually do the multi-generational crosses and you will pay dearly for them.

 

Australian Labradoodles are lines of multi-generation Labradoodles, with pedigrees, dating back to the two kennels in Australia who started breeding them in the early 1990's.  The crosses to make this Doodle are the Poodle, Labrador Retriever, American Cocker Spaniel, English Cocker Spaniel, and two Irish Water Spaniel. Australian Labradoodles are a great choice for people with allergies, but again they are rather costly and out of reach for the average family.

 

 

References:

  • Study done by C. Schleifenbaum  In Kiel Germany in 1976 with poodle-wolf hybrids to study their coat and markings..  (Zeitschrift fuer Saeugetierkunde, 41(3):147-167. BA 62:60461    ZR 113(19):148).
  • Dr. Kate Schoeffel, honours geneticist, Vet and Dood breeder, has a great page on the genetics here - http ://www.family-pets.com/genetics.html